Archive for April, 2011
Newest official clan, just broken out of hell, it’s Wicked! Lead by Nyster and P0pcorn co-lead by AusKingd0m, this new clan has hit the ground running.
Here’s a quick interview with co-leader, AusKingd0m:
1: What is Wicked about? Clan ideals, goals etc…
We were the most friendly clan on the dsc and were fairly well known, we hope to keep that going. We are just a have fun clan nothing to serious. As far as goals now were official which was our main goal were justing trying to have fun and set up our clan boards, haven’t set any new goals yet but we will.
2: As a new official clan, what are you going to do to stand out and make your mark?
Well before we became official I started hosting events now were official I want to host a kick ass event every week. As far as making our mark we don’t care to much about that like I said were just here to have fun although we would like to become well known.
3: Overall, is it a clan you’d recommend? Friendly, good leader etc…
Yes I’d recommend wicked to anyone. Nyster is a friendly and great leader P0pcorn is fairly new but he’s mad and seems cool (we merged with Ion) and I’m co-leader and I think im friendly as well. Nyster and me have been here since the beginning so yeh…
There you go, make sure to check them out! Good luck Wicked.
Wibbles, one of the hotbeds of activity within the Toribash forums, is the home to off-topic dribble and nonsense that doesn’t belong anywhere else on the boards. Of course, that’s what it’s supposed to be used for. It has instead become a overflowing cesspool full of spam and wannabe trolls and has been described as a “retarded squirming fetus”. To fully understand the thoughts of those in the field, I decided to interview several people who are active within Wibbles.
Some are rather proud of how wibbles currently is:
<Eureka> I’m going to ask you a few questions regarding wibbles
<p0w> okay sure
<Eureka> What do you think of the rules that are in place to prevent spam?
<p0w> They are useless, wibbles supposed to be a free expression
<Eureka> All of this spam doesn’t bother you?
<p0w> Nah im part of some of them
<Eureka> Are there threads that even you think are stupid?
<p0w> Yes some are but come on is wibbles ”idiocy” everywhere
<Eureka> Is there was one rule you would want to add to wibbles, what would it be?
<p0w> No mods, free expression
<Eureka> Why are you so obsessed with nyancat?
<p0w> is not an Obsession I just love it because it cheers me up ;3 who doesn’t love it, my fanclub allready 86 people
<p0w> nyan nyan
<Eureka> Thanks for your time
<p0w> can i post this on wibble lol
<p0w> wibble is freedom
Some look down upon those who spam the board:
<Eureka> What do you think of zayex, p0w, and the rest of the new wave of wibblers?
<deadshot1444> I can’t hate Zayex because he respects me, although he can be annoying at times; P0w, He can be a little stupid in his post,although he has some funny stuff to say;
The rest of the new wave of wibblers are just play RETARDED! They try and try to troll but fail miserably at it. They complain too much about Zayex or other shit.
<deadshot1444> And most of there threads are threads trying to smart ass across the rules!
<deadshot1444> Chuck Norris? Seriously? Rant done. Next question please :3
Then, there are those who have things to say about the management:
<Eureka> What do you think of the rules that are in place to prevent and combat spam?
<Zayex> Most of them are fair, but the one word post rule is retarded. Saying “okay” shouldn’t really be a crime
<Eureka> Do you respect the moderators and how they handle what they consider spam?
<Zayex> I respect everyone moderator except rai. rai can insert a phallus into his large intestine for being so “authoritive” about the one word post rule
And finally, there are the moderators who must clean up after the wibblers. I got a chance to speak to tertywerty, one of the local mods and a leading figure in wibbles, about his take on all of this.
<Nikita> I think [the rules currently in place] are all perfectly understandable/reasonable and should continue to be enforced
<Eureka> What do you think about the people who disagree with these rules?
<Eureka> Such as facepalm saying he would like “the old wibbles back”?
<Nikita> They just want wibbles to be in a state of anarchy again, either that or they feel too pressured by change
<Nikita> Seeing as how, alot of threads get closed everyday now
<Eureka> Does all of this mindless spam bother you, aside possibly from the fact that you have to clean it all up?
<Nikita> It actually bothers me alot, I usually have to take breaks from doing my job for a few hours to cool down
<Nikita> The amounts of ignorance and idiocy
<Nikita> make me rage so hard
<Nikita> I don’t want to sound like a dickhead
<Nikita> But it’s the truth
<Nikita> I do enjoy doing my job alot though
<Nikita> I love it
<Eureka> If you were in a higher position of power, say SMOD, how would you handle all of this nonsense, considering that most wibblers don’t really abide by the rules in place?
<Nikita> Lot’s of bans would take place, either that or I would quit my job
<Nikita> wibbles is hard enough to handle alone
<Eureka> Don’t you think flatout bans sound a bit extreme?
<Nikita> Not if they are only for like a day
<Nikita> after infraction warnings etc
<Nikita> if they continue to misbehave again after the infraction
<Nikita> Some people are just ignorant and don’t care or try to follow the rules
<Eureka> Do you appreciate your fellow local mods throwing in helping hands?
<Nikita> I love it
<Nikita> so much
<Nikita> They are a HUGGEE help
<Nikita> It’s really a huge stress reliever knowing they are there
I decided to conduct an experiment with Zayex and tertywerty:
<Eureka> One more question: would you be willing to submit to a debate with Zayex regarding this topic?
<Nikita> Yes sir
<Eureka> Would you be willing to submit to a discussion with tertywerty about this topic?
And so, the debate:
<@Eureka> Now… Terty you have the first question to Zayex
<Nikita> Zayex: what would you prefer wibbles to be like
<Zayex> A spammier version of off-topic, that is just for fun
<Nikita> But that is what wibbles is currently
<Zayex> Wibbles is degenerating
<Nikita> Wibbles has not changed since rittu took over.
<Zayex> But I’m starting to think that off-topic will replace wibbles
<@Eureka> May I interject
<Nikita> yes sir!
<@Eureka> <Zayex> A spammier version of off-topic, that is just for fun
<@Eureka> <Nikita> But that is what wibbles is currently
<@Eureka> <Zayex> Wibbles is degenerating
<@Eureka> Don’t you think that you, p0w, and other fellow wibblers from this wave are the ones contributing to this degeneration?
<Zayex> No, the one’s degenerating it are the blatant alt trolls + pure idiots
<Nikita> Eureka: I would like to give my answer to this question
<@Eureka> Go ahead
<Nikita> Right so. The thing is
<Nikita> Wibbles is alot like generations of life
<Nikita> You will always have current thigns going on people get old people leave
<Nikita> then a wave of new people come in
<Nikita> they shit up the place and complain about wibbles degenerating
<Nikita> then more new people come and and do the same
<Nikita> the older people that came before them wisen up or leave
<Nikita> or get banned
<Nikita> and so on and so on
<Nikita> it always does this
<Nikita> Wibbles has not changed
<@Eureka> Zayex: your response?
<Zayex> Nikita: Pretty much that: this generation is killing wibbles though.
<Nikita> That proves what I am saying, you are the new generation
<Zayex> the other generations imply made it boring
<Hyde> wibbles is a vampire, it feeds on the blood of you new people until you get less dumber
<Nikita> I don’t mean to sound harsh
<Nikita> But this is how it works
<Nikita> How it’s always been
<Nikita> So really nothing has changed im saying that again
<@Eureka> Zayex: Your turn to give a question to terty
<@Eureka> question, even
<Zayex> Alright: What do you think would happen to wibbles if every 2011/late 2010 joiner quit?
<Nikita> Nothing at all Zayex
<Nikita> Nothing would change
<Zayex> I agree. But I think spam would decrease
<Nikita> It would not
<@Eureka> May I add, that wibbles has been a cesspool for spem for years
<Zayex> Eureka: All of the alt trolls would be gone, resulting in 1 week of spam free wibbles, correct?
<Nikita> It makes me happy that wibbles is were most of it is concentrated
<Nikita> If it weren’t for wibbles it would spread around the forum alot more
<Nikita> Making users leave
<Nikita> It’s sort of a controlled chaos
<Nikita> But I like to keep the chaos down to a minimum
<Nikita> So people can have fun
<Nikita> within the rules of course
<@Eureka> Zayex: response
<Zayex> I agree, but I don’t want wibbles to fall apart to spam
<@Eureka> <Zayex> Well, I usually relieve boredom
<@Eureka> <Eureka> In what way?
<@Eureka> <Zayex> in posting random things
* Nikita eats an oreo
<@Eureka> You admit to contributing to spam
<Nikita> I think that’s actually a bit harsh
<Nikita> Random things doesn’t necessarily mean spam
<Zayex> Posting random things as in contributing to random discussions. (And yes, I do spam sometimes ;O)
* @Eureka noms celery
<@Eureka> Nikita: next question to Zayex
<Nikita> I have to say something
<Nikita> <Zayex> I agree, but I don’t want wibbles to fall apart to spam
<Nikita> That is why we are here bro
<Nikita> What do you think the moderators can do to improve the posting quality/fun factor of wibbles?
<@Eureka> Without the posters resorting to spam, I might add?
<Nikita> Without resorting to spam
<Zayex> Not be so strict when a clueless noob makes a blatantly against the rules thread.
<Nikita> The thing is, the clueless noob should learn how to read the stickied topic called RULES OF WIBBLES
<Nikita> BEFORE posting
<Nikita> As he should ANY forum board
* @Eureka raises glass
<Zayex> Nikita: I couldn’t agree more, but think about it. Their horrible names + grammar = stupid people
<Nikita> I don’t tolerate ignorance very well
<Nikita> There are stupid people but there are also extremely ignorant people
<Nikita> ones that don’t care about the rules
<Nikita> We have to jam these rules into their brains
<Zayex> Also I’d like to add: Telling users to “go fucking die” could cause them to quit wibbles and toribash alike. (If they’re emos ;O)
<Nikita> I stopped doing that
<@Eureka> ONE MORE QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU
<Bloob> inb4 question, even
<@Eureka> What do you both think of the current set of rules?
<Zayex> As previously said: They all are fair, except the 1 word post rule, some slack could be given on that.
<Nikita> I think they are completely fair and should still be enforced, to keep the spam/trolling down and the fun factor up
<@Eureka> Nikita: your response to Zayex’s answer?
<Nikita> Nobody likes it when you are talking to someone and all they ever have to reply with is one word
<Nikita> It’s just boring
<Nikita> it’s also annoying
<@Eureka> Zayex: your response
<Zayex> The only one word posts I think are acceptable are: “User quotes text” QFT/ ^this
<Zayex> I was banned for a QFT
<Nikita> You realize that ban was AFTER you being warned multiple times of doing so are you not?
<Zayex> Yes, yes, but QFT is 3 words shortened, so I don’t see how that could be punishable.
<Nikita> Letters confined together without spacing is considered a single instance
<Nikita> even if it is an acronym
<Nikita> You would post saying rofl or lol or gtfo would you?
<Zayex> So you’re saying that if I said: “Q F T” I wouldn’t have been banned?
<Nikita> those are acronyms
<Nikita> who knows?
<Bloob> I was infracted for a one word post.
<Bloob> Im not arguing anything.
<Nikita> It all depends on what the moderator decides on what is a one word post or not
<Nikita> Same goes with everything
<Nikita> Point is, we want you to be more original and less boring so wibbles can remain a fun place to chat
<Nikita> saying a single letter or word in a post is very boring
<Nikita> That’s all I have to say about this really
<@Eureka> Anything else either of you would like to say before we close this?
<Zayex> Yes, I’d also like to point out the blatant alt trolls
<Zayex> Why not ban them?
<Nikita> Yes, PLEASE READ THE RULES!!! and think about them, they are completely justified. they are in place for the good of the community and for you to be comfortable in posting
<Nikita> It’s always good when everyone is happy.
<Nikita> If you don’t understand or want to discuss them
<Nikita> we are always here to help
<@Eureka> gg gentlemen.
People ask me fairly often ‘GHB, could you please teach me how to do proper marketing?’
Well, you are right, that is not exactly how they ask but I don’t feel like putting greater amounts of orthographical mistakes into this article than there would naturally be due to my incapacity of writing correctly.
However, there is not really much to teach about marketing within the Toribash community. It is all about common sense, using information you perceive properly and being willing to abuse the great stupidity of the people who will buy from you.
I usually sit in #support. Give around a little help you know? Anyways obviously I’m not always active in there, but i have been noticing that nobody has lately. I have seen a bunch of situations go by unhelped.
Here are some examples:
* Lwd (webchat@1337-C0A77CD2.bois.qwest.net) has joined #support
<Lwd>Can’t open toribash on mac. Any help?
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<Swammy2> anyone know why my Toribash wont dl customs? I just installed 3.9
wer can i download 3.9?
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* dragonlaye (webchat@1337-5EEACD60.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #support
* dragonlaye (webchat@1337-5EEACD60.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has left #support
(Im not completely sure what this was all about, but nobody commented on it so i figure, why not stick it in?)
* wedsanfle (webchat@1337-D5E71840.washdc.east.verizon.net) has joined #support
<wedsanfle> May i have a link to all the 3.9 mods from someone?
<wedsanfle> I need it for a friend.
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* Noobish123 (webchat@1337-DBA73141.brazoria-inet.com) has joined #support
<Noobish123> I need help with trying to find someones deactivated inventory without clicking their name
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As you can see there have been quite a few, and these are only some of the ones that i found today. These are all from today.
Something should be done about this, lets all work together to boost the general level in #support.
Each year that I have been a member of this community, April the 1st has been a day of gleeful trickery from the Toribash staff, and this year was no different. Both SlipAnc and BirdFlu had some fun with the community, as did avwave.
SlipAnc’s antics involved telling the community, throught a thread in the ‘news’ forum, that every account which had not been used more than once per week was to be deleted. This was met with a mixture of disbelief, anger and fear, as the Toribash community despaired the apparent loss of well-known accounts which had not been used in over a week (although the majority of users who were arguing against it only joined the forums a couple of years after people went inactive).
BirdFlu created a sticky in the Items forum of the market, banning the use of TC to buy items and threatening to ban anyone who didn’t listen. Again, the responses ranged from
Nice joke BirdFlu. :3
Thats fucked up. Whats the market for, other than making tc.
This is the stupidest market rule ever.
Seriously, if market is a place to get items then why can’t ppl use their TC here? that makes TC completely useless.
Also items are “scammable” too, so if it is because of scams that we can no longer sell items per TC, realise that you can get scammed by items, and more easily because items value is not as exact as Tc value.
And it’s easy to detect a scam, if somebody is selling his deactivated inventory you can watch it to see if its real. Same happens with sets, you can check them before “buying” them.
And avwave’s joke was very elaborate indeed. It can be summed up by the following:
[17:51:58] <&sid> UNICORNS
[17:52:00] <&sid> FUCKING
[17:52:02] <&sid> EVERYWHERE
The site’s banner and everybody’s avatars were entirely comprised of unicorns.
And the final notable event of April Fools Day: Tonakai, a long-standing and highly respected member of the community, has left. Bye Tonakai. :’(
There have been some recent improvements to the toribash website and forums. For instance the new achievements page, with its helpful progress bar. He has even been adding new achievements that tie into the lottery, which by itself is great.
I even got a few words in with crux!
* crux (garrypeace@1337-A27C4420.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) has joined #interview
Bloob: Hey crux
Bloob: So youve recently become a developer and we can all see you are doing a great job.
I noticed about the new achievements page.
Basically what did you change to it?
Crux: not a lot to be honest. just gave it a new look.
with a nice progress bar.
hopefully going to add the ladder again.
Bloob: that’ll be fun to see.
Are we going to be seeing anything new popping up in the future?
Crux: that’s the plan.
a few things will be changed/added.
well, we have the lottery.. but that was a month ago.
there will be a tc lottery coming soon.
but before that happens..
something that everybody wants, will come first.. and that is the market.
although this time, there will be no youshops. simply add items and set your price. users can then view the items up for sale and choose what they want.
pretty simple idea but it will keep people and will improve the market once again.
Bloob: That does sound like a good plan.
Crux: Just viewing all items in a row.
oh, and a decent search too.
Bloob: Oh wow
That will make everything so much easier.
So i have heard about a new ranking system coming up.
Do you know anything about that? ;o
Crux: yup, a new refined system is being developed at the moment. but, it’s not my business so i won’t give out too much details. haha.
Bloob: haha okay.
Well thats about it for today.
Thanks for the interview. Cheers
So appreciate what crux does, and be looking forward to some new adventures on Toribash.
As most of you people probably do not know the true value of the currency we all know as Toricredits is influenced by certain circumstances within and even outside the toribash community.
One toricredit is definitely not always worth one toricredit and I tell you why.
Before we can begin, we need to develop a sophisticated understanding of what #outside is and what it stands it means to the decent fellow people who actively participate in that specific channel almost every day for several hours.
What motivates people to waste so much time within a rather small group of less intelligent people who tend to act elitist even though they are rather unknown and/or disrespected members of the Toribash Community?
You know Wibbles? That offtopic discussion board where the trolls laugh and play in chocolate rivers with gum drop smiles? Well then you’ll also know about the “rate the username above you” threads and the “How hungry is the above user for power” threads. These are called above user threads. And they are choking wibbles.
I had a quick talk with Sid about the matter.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
I won’t lie to you, I like posting in them. But variety is key, and having so many of those threads around sort of calls for action. I was thinking about talking to rittu about making a subforum for above user threads, along with any other forum games.
So Sid, what is the current state of wibbles and the above user thread overload?
Well, above user threads seem to be the only threads that get more than 4 pages in wibbles nowadays. I don’t really have anything against it, as long as that’s not what every single thread is about. I’m hovering my eyes over wibbles right now, this is what’s happening: there are 20 threads in the first page, besides the stickies. 6 of them are above user threads, 5 of them are closed, and the other 9 have 3 pages of less, meaning that the only successful threads currently in wibbles are the above user threads.
People have taken making and posting these to a habit. They want to know what others think.
“I wonder how XXXX rates my username?” Then they go back for more opinions and more and more.
What is being done to slow it down?
This. And it did slow down the activity, although it didn’t bring a definite end to any of the threads. Know that if it gets out of hand, the wibblecops can close one or two of them.
This recent influx made Sid take action. Posting a thread telling wibblers they may only post in the threads once a day. A sensible decision indeed.
One thread, “Rate The Above Username” has been up for a week and has 553 replies and 3,323 views. That’s more than February’s ToriNews!
All I can say is thank god wibbles doesn’t have post count.